Dota 2 alan pudge and biggs

Dota 2 alan pudge and biggs

he falls off mid to late game I would suggest getting a ethreal blade and dagon lvl 5 for later game also a hood of defiance would be a choice but you would need a ton of farm

So me and some guys i know have been running into some issue lately , it’s basically : ” I’ve done pretty good job with pudge but we lost ” , so Pudge’s job is only to make room for other carries to farm , Then how can I carry with pudge / What are the circumstances when I’ll need to carry with pudge ?

he falls off mid to late game I would suggest getting a ethreal blade and dagon lvl 5 for later game also a hood of defiance would be a choice but you would need a ton of farm

This is the stupidest choice you could ever ever do. If the opposite team has a little of brains (which 99.99% time apparently does not at least in the ♥♥♥♥♥♥ 3.XX tier yes where i am) they will get BKB, so your 12 700 gold wasted in EB + Dagon is ♥♥♥♥ing useless.

the best you can do if you wanna carry with whatever hero you want but is not tagged as “carry” per se, is aiming for the disables / crowd control.

I would say Scythe of Vyse, Hearth, Aghs, Blink, bkb or linken´s are more than enough to disable whichever hero for 6.5 seconds (3.5 of the hex + 3 of dismember)

which at least are

-715 magical damage of root
-525 magical damage of dismember + 1x times your strenght (lets say +150 damage)
– 1 or 2 hits during the hex duration (

300 physical damage)
-Ethereal blade damage 75 +2x times your strenght (lets say 75 + 300) magical damage and amplifies all the magica damage if you do it properly

So lets sum the magical damage
715 + 525 + 150 + 375 = 1765 magical damage – 25% of base resistance = 1323

Then amplifies the damage due the etheral blade which is +40% magical damage
1323 *1.4 = 1852 magical damage + the physical damage you did of your theoritecally 2 right clicks which lets say 300 damage minus the resitance, lets say he is farmed and has around 60% damage resitance that give us a grand total of:

300 * 0.4 =120
120 + 1852 = 1975 Effecive Damage.

Which is alot in 6.5 seconds the hero cannot attack you at all cause is hex – disabled. And the opposite team cannot do much if you have bkb, blink.

The dagon build is ♥♥♥♥ing useless

Pudge simple isnt a Carry.

A ganker, yes, one of the best, but nothing more than that.

Pudge can be used to take out enemy supports late game so that their carries are left with no help. A carry Pudge is not possible.

90% of you are wrong, I faced a 6 slotted PL as pudge and literally solo won the game with Gameplay decisions and item decisions I made, pudge can outcarry, check the highlights, I was originally offlane but 70k ending damage to my carries 60k

90% of you are wrong,

Then how can I carry with pudge / What are the circumstances when I’ll need to carry with pudge ?

A carry is a hero whose performance scales extremely well with equipment because of their abilities and talents.

Look at Spectre.
Spectral dagger: both a theoretically support and carry Spectre can use this as an escape tool. Only the carry Spectre can use it as a tool to hunt down enemies, because if you are a support, you don’t want to run alone after enemy carries.

Desolate: allows carry Spectre with a fast attack speed to destroy lone opponents of any size by ignoring their armor and resistances. A support Spectre won’t have that attack speed, and will get destroyed by better equipped enemy carries or better skilled enemy supports because of their nukes and stuns. And if you are not alone, your damage and this skill won’t really matter compared to that of your carries.

Dispersion: awesome skill. A well equipped carry Spectre can kill or seriously damage an entire enemy team that tries to bring her down with this skill alone. Not only that, but it makes her so much tougher too. A support? Doesn’t really do anything. A percentage based increase of basically nothing amounts to still basically nothing.

Haunt: allows Spectre to farm and join combat at any moment. More importantly, if the enemy team kills Spectre in a late game team fight, she buys back and instantly teleports back into the fray. Not only that, but the illusions, with radiance and diffusal blade, deal serious damage. And it works as an escape.
Now: farming is good for both support and carry Spectre, but the latter one farms much faster, making this more efficient.
Buyback in combat is awesome for carry Spectre as she is a huge threat. Support Spectre can then throw another cotton ball at the enemy team after dying randomly in some area attack.
Illusions: they deal no damage and die instantly if you have no items.
Escape: if you die after one hit, it won’t do much good. And if you escape, eh.

That’s why Spectre is a good carry. She scales extremely well with items, she sucks horrible without them-

Now, Pudge.
Hook: support / ganker Pudge can hook as well with or without items. Sure, more items improves mobility of Pudge, but that’s about it. The skill is awesome without items and only improves slightly with items.
Rot: Again, the damage and the slow work very well without items, but are only barely improvable with items.
Flesh Heap: it’s nice, because it gives ganker / support Pudge survivability without needing lots of fancy items. With lots of fancy items, it’s a nice but not necessary bonus.
Dismember: another stun which is nice but no carry ability, a heal with is also nice but also no carry ability.

That is why Pudge is no carry. He has no carry abilities, he works well without lots of items and he doesn’t scale that well with items. Spectre farms, gets rich, gets lots of items, scales with them and destroys late game entire teams. Pudge doesn’t farm, but roams, ganks, initiates, creates space, slows down the enemy team.

Dota 2 alan pudge and biggs

he falls off mid to late game I would suggest getting a ethreal blade and dagon lvl 5 for later game also a hood of defiance would be a choice but you would need a ton of farm

So me and some guys i know have been running into some issue lately , it’s basically : ” I’ve done pretty good job with pudge but we lost ” , so Pudge’s job is only to make room for other carries to farm , Then how can I carry with pudge / What are the circumstances when I’ll need to carry with pudge ?

he falls off mid to late game I would suggest getting a ethreal blade and dagon lvl 5 for later game also a hood of defiance would be a choice but you would need a ton of farm

This is the stupidest choice you could ever ever do. If the opposite team has a little of brains (which 99.99% time apparently does not at least in the ♥♥♥♥♥♥ 3.XX tier yes where i am) they will get BKB, so your 12 700 gold wasted in EB + Dagon is ♥♥♥♥ing useless.

the best you can do if you wanna carry with whatever hero you want but is not tagged as “carry” per se, is aiming for the disables / crowd control.

I would say Scythe of Vyse, Hearth, Aghs, Blink, bkb or linken´s are more than enough to disable whichever hero for 6.5 seconds (3.5 of the hex + 3 of dismember)

which at least are

-715 magical damage of root
-525 magical damage of dismember + 1x times your strenght (lets say +150 damage)
– 1 or 2 hits during the hex duration (

300 physical damage)
-Ethereal blade damage 75 +2x times your strenght (lets say 75 + 300) magical damage and amplifies all the magica damage if you do it properly

So lets sum the magical damage
715 + 525 + 150 + 375 = 1765 magical damage – 25% of base resistance = 1323

Then amplifies the damage due the etheral blade which is +40% magical damage
1323 *1.4 = 1852 magical damage + the physical damage you did of your theoritecally 2 right clicks which lets say 300 damage minus the resitance, lets say he is farmed and has around 60% damage resitance that give us a grand total of:

300 * 0.4 =120
120 + 1852 = 1975 Effecive Damage.

Which is alot in 6.5 seconds the hero cannot attack you at all cause is hex – disabled. And the opposite team cannot do much if you have bkb, blink.

The dagon build is ♥♥♥♥ing useless

Pudge simple isnt a Carry.

A ganker, yes, one of the best, but nothing more than that.

Pudge can be used to take out enemy supports late game so that their carries are left with no help. A carry Pudge is not possible.

90% of you are wrong, I faced a 6 slotted PL as pudge and literally solo won the game with Gameplay decisions and item decisions I made, pudge can outcarry, check the highlights, I was originally offlane but 70k ending damage to my carries 60k

90% of you are wrong,

Then how can I carry with pudge / What are the circumstances when I’ll need to carry with pudge ?

A carry is a hero whose performance scales extremely well with equipment because of their abilities and talents.

Look at Spectre.
Spectral dagger: both a theoretically support and carry Spectre can use this as an escape tool. Only the carry Spectre can use it as a tool to hunt down enemies, because if you are a support, you don’t want to run alone after enemy carries.

Desolate: allows carry Spectre with a fast attack speed to destroy lone opponents of any size by ignoring their armor and resistances. A support Spectre won’t have that attack speed, and will get destroyed by better equipped enemy carries or better skilled enemy supports because of their nukes and stuns. And if you are not alone, your damage and this skill won’t really matter compared to that of your carries.

Dispersion: awesome skill. A well equipped carry Spectre can kill or seriously damage an entire enemy team that tries to bring her down with this skill alone. Not only that, but it makes her so much tougher too. A support? Doesn’t really do anything. A percentage based increase of basically nothing amounts to still basically nothing.

Haunt: allows Spectre to farm and join combat at any moment. More importantly, if the enemy team kills Spectre in a late game team fight, she buys back and instantly teleports back into the fray. Not only that, but the illusions, with radiance and diffusal blade, deal serious damage. And it works as an escape.
Now: farming is good for both support and carry Spectre, but the latter one farms much faster, making this more efficient.
Buyback in combat is awesome for carry Spectre as she is a huge threat. Support Spectre can then throw another cotton ball at the enemy team after dying randomly in some area attack.
Illusions: they deal no damage and die instantly if you have no items.
Escape: if you die after one hit, it won’t do much good. And if you escape, eh.

That’s why Spectre is a good carry. She scales extremely well with items, she sucks horrible without them-

Now, Pudge.
Hook: support / ganker Pudge can hook as well with or without items. Sure, more items improves mobility of Pudge, but that’s about it. The skill is awesome without items and only improves slightly with items.
Rot: Again, the damage and the slow work very well without items, but are only barely improvable with items.
Flesh Heap: it’s nice, because it gives ganker / support Pudge survivability without needing lots of fancy items. With lots of fancy items, it’s a nice but not necessary bonus.
Dismember: another stun which is nice but no carry ability, a heal with is also nice but also no carry ability.

That is why Pudge is no carry. He has no carry abilities, he works well without lots of items and he doesn’t scale that well with items. Spectre farms, gets rich, gets lots of items, scales with them and destroys late game entire teams. Pudge doesn’t farm, but roams, ganks, initiates, creates space, slows down the enemy team.